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04 January 2009 @ 06:47 pm
Torchwood books  

I was looking for some help really! My friend wants some of the Torchwood books for her birthday and she's a big Ianto fan. So, basically, I was wondering if anyone here had any recommendations. I've read some of the reviews and "The Twilight Streets" seems to be the best bet, but are there any others that anyone thinks are good?

I should mention she's not a big Gwen fan and she doesn't like Jack/Gwen much, but apart from that she's not very picky. She just loves Ianto!

Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
fry_addict on January 4th, 2009 07:01 pm (UTC)
Two of the new books, "Almost Perfect" and "Pack Animals", might be perfect for her. "Almost Perfect" is a very Ianto-centric story. The storyline is a bit like crack-fanfic (Ianto wakes up as a woman!). I loved it, though. Gwen does play a rather big part in it, too, but I found her pretty well written in this, so she shouldn't bother your friend too much.
"Pack Animals" also has some wonderful Jack/Ianto interaction in it.
tamiriatamiria on January 4th, 2009 07:09 pm (UTC)
Thanks for your help!

I wanted to get her "Almost Perfect" because it looked like it revolved around Ianto, but she also loves Tosh and Owen, so I wasn't sure if she'd like it. She mentioned "Pack Animals" might be good, though I think that has more to do with zoos than anything. She's a bit bizarre :)

Sooo... I'll probably get her both of those! Thanks again.
Paula B: leaning iantomamabeast on January 4th, 2009 07:19 pm (UTC)
i agree with both of these
cue ominous musicellex42 on January 5th, 2009 02:42 am (UTC)
Those two were fantastic. Along with "The Twilight Streets", they have the most Ianto involvement of any of the books so far.
rupert2bear on January 4th, 2009 07:21 pm (UTC)
I adored 'Almost Perfect'.
tamiriatamiria on January 4th, 2009 07:27 pm (UTC)
I thought it sounded like a bit of a strange story, but it must be well done if so many people like it. Even if it is a bit silly, she'll like it anyway.
per aspera ad astra: color me unimpressedamazonqueenkate on January 4th, 2009 07:33 pm (UTC)
Twilight Streets was really good but Gwen really, really annoyed me throughout Almost Perfect -- she gets really catty and unbarable at points -- so I'm not sure if that's the best choice. I have a bunch of the others but I haven't read them yet, so I can't really speak to their quality. I honestly think Twilight Streets is a way better choice than Almost Perfect, though.
tamiriatamiria on January 4th, 2009 08:30 pm (UTC)
She wants "Twilight Streets" just because Ianto is on the cover so I'll probably get her that. :) Aah, annoying, catty Gwen! I hope it isn't too bad! I think I'll get it as well, but I'll tell her she can burn it if she hates it. ;) I'm sure it will be fine though. As long as it has lots of Ianto. Thanks for your advice though. I will warn her about it. :)
cue ominous musicellex42 on January 5th, 2009 02:45 am (UTC)
I guess the issue of what Gwen is like in "Almost Perfect" is kind of up to the individual reader - I thought she was hilarious. Supportive but also a bit jealous, and in places I couldn't blame her for being a bit impatient with Ianto. But there is LOTS of Ianto in that one.
nikki4noonikki4noo on January 4th, 2009 07:51 pm (UTC)
Trace Memory has almost equal amounts of the whole team with some lovely back story information about them all. If she likes Tosh and Owen as well, then I suggest that book too. It is still by far my favourite TW book.
tamiriatamiria on January 4th, 2009 08:23 pm (UTC)
I might get someone else to buy this for her then. I have had a look at it, but I can't get her them all! Thanks :)
tigercheetahtigercheetah on January 4th, 2009 08:12 pm (UTC)
For me the best Torchwood books for a Ianto fan are Almost Perfect, Pack Animals, The Twilight Streets and Trace Memory. Out of those four, Almost Perfect probably has the largest amount of Ianto in it and it also has Jack being particularly affectionate with him. And even though there's a fair amount of Gwen in it, she's remarkably likeable in this story and there isn't a hint of Jack/Gwen anywhere.

The best book for Owen and Tosh is Sky Point but that actually has the least amount of Ianto out of all the recent books.
tigercheetahtigercheetah on January 4th, 2009 08:14 pm (UTC)
Almost Perfect IS a bit silly but you wouldn't really expect anything else from a book about Ianto becoming a woman. :)
tamiriatamiria on January 4th, 2009 08:24 pm (UTC)
I think I might get someone else to get her Trace Memory and Sky Point then. She likes Owen too, but Ianto is definitely her favourite character, so I want him to be in it the most. Thanks for the help!
Adjoviadjovi on January 4th, 2009 08:16 pm (UTC)
i actually liked pack animals more than almost perfect, b/c i thought the characterizations were better in pack animals. almost perfect was good, but it felt a little ham-handed with all of the stereotyping of women by the end. but, both are great reads. i thought twilight streets was ok--i just think all around of the three, i liked the story of pack animals the most, since it seemed like something that could actually happen on the show.
tamiriatamiria on January 4th, 2009 08:25 pm (UTC)
One of the reviews did say women were stereotyped quite a lot. This would probably annoy me, but she can probably ignore it. I'm definitely getting her Pack Animals now though, so I'm glad you think it is good. :)
ceindreadhceindreadh on January 4th, 2009 10:07 pm (UTC)
Avoid the first three books. They were clearly written based on the guidelines for S1 and all of them are set Pre-Cyberwoman, and feature very little Ianto and way too much Gwen.
(Anonymous) on January 4th, 2009 10:30 pm (UTC)
Uuuh do you happen to know which are the first three books? There are so many! :S Do you mean Border Princes, Another Life, and Slow Decay? That is what I got when I tried to use google anyway.
Thanks for the help :)
tamiriatamiria on January 4th, 2009 10:33 pm (UTC)
whoops forgot to log in :S
ceindreadhceindreadh on January 4th, 2009 10:51 pm (UTC)
Oh sorry, yes, those 3 are the ones I was talking about. I never actually got around to reading Slow Decay, but from the blurb, it looked to be yet another Ianto-lite book (can't blame the author really, the book would have been written before TPTB decided to use Ianto more)
Ellis: SEtimelady1994 on January 4th, 2009 11:47 pm (UTC)
i think pack animals
at one point it has ianto walking around naked, and jack and ianto go on their date
theres no gwack in it and all the characters have a fair bit each
Hello, yes, I am Briam: tw/dw-somewoundsneverheallionessvalenti on January 5th, 2009 04:02 am (UTC)
Avoid SkyPoint, Ianto's hardly in it at all, but it's a lovely Tosh/Owen story. Pack Animals is great, Ianto plays a very big role in it, and I always recommend Trace Memory because it's my favorite of the novels. It has some of my absolute favorite Jack/Ianto moments.

I personally didn't like Almost Perfect, I felt like I could get better stories that are better written online for free by the fans. But I'm always outvoted on that one. :)
tamiriatamiria on January 5th, 2009 06:00 pm (UTC)
There seems to be mixed feelings about Almost Perfect but I'll probably get it anyway. Everyone seems to be very positive about Trace Memory so even I want to read it now! Thanks :)
Sara: insaneluniasta on January 5th, 2009 07:39 am (UTC)
Well, Twilight Streets does have Ianto on the cover ;) I've myself read only this one and Trace Memory and - as big but reasonable Ianto fan myself - I enjoyed the latter more. Trace Memory is flashback oriented, there is really nice picture of Torchwood London there and some nice Jack/Ianto moments and one nice Gwen-bashing moment :D And I think it has better plot. Ianto isn't there, like, a LOT, but when he is, he is awesome and very in character
tamiriatamiria on January 5th, 2009 05:58 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I think I'm going to get my other friend to get her Trace Memory because it does sound good. Plot is always good! Thanks for the help!
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tamiriatamiria on January 5th, 2009 05:56 pm (UTC)
I think I'm going to prod another one of my friends to get her Trace Memory because everyone seems to like it. She does watch Doctor Who so that will probably be good. Thanks for the help. :)
iloveatlantisiloveatlantis on January 5th, 2009 02:26 pm (UTC)
I also adore Ianto and Jack/Ianto, but am not fond of Gwen and admit I absolutely *hate* Jack/Gwen. I haven't read all the books, but of the ones I have read I particularly adored Twilight Streets and Pack Animals and have actually read both twice--lovely Jack/Ianto moments and I found the guys very much in character in both. I especially adored Twilight Streets as Ianto's relationship with Jack is very vital to the story, as is Ianto. I also liked Skypoint quite a lot--less Ianto, but the moments with him are very nice, and there are some lovely Jack/Ianto moments. Another Life has very little Ianto and was obviously written before the series ever aired (although it does have Jack flirting with Ianto in the little time we do see Ianto). I've been trying to read Almost Perfect and so far am not impressed--yes, it has a great deal of Ianto, but he seems very out of character to me, even more than the "wakes up as a woman" storyline should account for. I also haven't been impressed with the Jack/Ianto in it, or of the viewpoint Ianto seems to have of Jack and of their relationship. There have been some funny Gwen-bashing moments, though.
tamiriatamiria on January 5th, 2009 06:06 pm (UTC)
Yes, both me and my friend dislike Jack/Gwen. I'm all right with Gwen as long as she's with Rhys... and being nice to him for once. ;) I don't think I'd enjoy Almost Perfect from what people have been saying about it, but I think my friend will probably find it funny. I was contemplating Skypoint because she also loves Tosh/Owen, but I can't buy her everything! :S Besides, Ianto must come first!
tigercheetahtigercheetah on January 5th, 2009 07:51 pm (UTC)
Out of the four Ianto books that I mentioned - Almost Perfect, Pack Animals, Twilight Streets and Trace Memroy - I would say that Pack Animals and Trace Memory have the best overall stories, which you could imagine actually becoming episodes.

Twilight Streets features Billis from series 1 and is generally a good whole-team story which features all of the characters more or less equally and Almost Perfect is simply an amusing read if you like lots of Ianto, lots of humour and Jack being more 'lovey-dovey' with Ianto than we usually see in the tv series. I think some people see Jack as being TOO affectionate with Ianto in Almost Perfect. Gwen and Rhys are also more 'lovey-dovey' with each other here than in most of the tv series.
slns7552slns7552 on January 7th, 2009 05:51 pm (UTC)
I would say the best ones, imho, are Twilight Streets, Something in the Water and Pack Animals. I really don't like Gwen and all the books have way too much of her. Makes me feel like I'm reading "The Gwen Chronicles" because so much is her. The writers seem to use Rhys a lot too. I don't think Jack even gets as much page time as those 2 do. As to Almost Perfect, I was extremely disappointed in it. I've read reviews where they were raving about the Jack/Ianto in it but I thought that they were totally out of character. (The best one for their relationship to me was Pack Animals.) Ianto was, using the book's word, glum about being a woman, but it went about 2/3s through before he even questioned why he had been turned into one. Jack didn't appear to really want to have anything to do with him as a woman and he didn't seem concerned enough to attempt to figure out what was up. I didn't see any real humor or romance between the two. They didn't seem to even be lovers in this one.
Trace Memory was ok. Another of Jack's old lovers showed up and I didn't care for the ending and how Jack treated Ianto.
charmedhottiecharmedhottie on January 8th, 2009 03:51 pm (UTC)
i'm exactyl like your friend, love ianto hates gwen lol. So i'd say almost perfect, very ianto centric and i think it has Gwen bashing :D